tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11597422.post113811101091517138..comments2023-11-28T02:14:46.571-05:00Comments on Random Thoughts of the Reading Obsessed: Bad boys, Antiheros and Good GirlsTara Mariehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15963704767440694312noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11597422.post-1138177580417760082006-01-25T03:26:00.000-05:002006-01-25T03:26:00.000-05:00I have that song running through my head now - bad...I have that song running through my head now - bad, bad, bad, bad boys...they make me feel so good..<BR/>LOL<BR/>IS that it? Bad boys are exciting and girls are supposed to be good and redeem them? <BR/>I never read a single bad boy book, so I don't know if the heroes are really Bad, but I love the 'bad boy' in LOST - he's so "not at all bad" underneath it all. Maybe that's the secret to a really interesting hero.Samhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05943062466398436785noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11597422.post-1138146663361505472006-01-24T18:51:00.000-05:002006-01-24T18:51:00.000-05:00Oh, I'm exactly the same way with titles. I hate ...Oh, I'm exactly the same way with titles. I hate that so many of them have "bad boy" in them. Books I might otherwise buy with no qualms - I have second thoughts when I see the title. 'Cause really how bad are they if we are told they are bad. And like you, I love bad boys and anti heroes - thus explaining my crush on Sawyer -oops - James Ford. And what would you consider him? Bad boy or anit hero? I'm not quite sure myselfKristie (J)https://www.blogger.com/profile/15743921647882733738noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11597422.post-1138142049547511282006-01-24T17:34:00.000-05:002006-01-24T17:34:00.000-05:00Tara, I'm glad to hear your mom & your hubby are w...Tara, I'm glad to hear your mom & your hubby are well. Medical ailments are going around this week it seems.<BR/><BR/>As to antiheroes, I agree Anne Stuart does them the best. I don't read LF, but I've heard her fangirls are, um, rabid. <BR/><BR/>As to 'good girls', as far as I'm concerned, the vast majority of Romancelandia women fit the stereotype no matter what time period featured. <BR/><BR/>The few women who aren't 'good girls' are often saddled with other, very negative traits or problems that make her unpalatable to readers. Itseems to me many of the heroines are written either 'good girly' or as shrill & overly edgy. Few in betweens.Bob & Muffintophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12517851052183148808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11597422.post-1138132368963336862006-01-24T14:52:00.000-05:002006-01-24T14:52:00.000-05:00Sybil, see great minds think a like.Cindy, ...bad ...Sybil, see great minds think a like.<BR/><BR/>Cindy, <I>...bad in bed</I> that was funny. <I>I guess I would say that society see 'good girls' as quiet, shy, virginal.</I> isn't Good Girl such a stereotype? I don't have problem with good girl stories and actually enjoy them, but why do we need to know up front she's a "good girl" in the title... Maybe Sybil's right, we need to study the marketing of these books.<BR/><BR/>I'm not too worried about Lori Foster fangirls, I doubt they consider me interesting enough to bother with.<BR/><BR/>Jay, ...<I>I'm projecting my own genre bias on the books based on my interpretation of the title...</I> I'm doing the same thing and just like Bad Boy books, it's probably not fair to the writers.Tara Mariehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15963704767440694312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11597422.post-1138125836976710052006-01-24T13:03:00.000-05:002006-01-24T13:03:00.000-05:002 things:I'm not a fan of Lori Foster and I have a...2 things:<BR/><BR/><I>I'm not a fan of Lori Foster and I have a tendency to equate Bad Boy with her books--ack, how unfair is that to other writers? </I> <BR/><BR/>I do this too, but I think it's because she headlines every third Bad Boy book. I'd have to do some research but I honestly think she has a novella in a good 90% of the bad boy books out there. I can only think of a handful that she's not in and those are mainly the ones that are 3 stories by 1 author. <BR/><BR/><I>So, now I have a confession, I've never read a Good Girl book. That's not to say I haven't read a book with a Good Girl heroine, but I've never actually read a book with Good Girl in the title. </I><BR/><BR/>I can think of two off the top of my head, Good Girls Gone Bad (by Karin Tabke, releases 9/06) and Good Girls Don't (by Kelly St. John, out now). <BR/><BR/>But it seems to me these are stories that try to scream "I'm not the normal simpering heroine. I'm BAD! Sometimes I go to bed without brushing my teeth first." Mind you, I haven't read either, so maybe I'm projecting my own genre bias on the books based on my interpretaion of the title, but I have to say, I don't expect these books to anymore true to the good girl/bad girl dichotomy than the Bad Boy books are.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11597422.post-1138124915351782892006-01-24T12:48:00.000-05:002006-01-24T12:48:00.000-05:00Are they good in the biblical sense or have good m...Are they good in the biblical sense or have good moral fiber? Are they good friends, good daughters, good looking or good in bed? Aren't all heroines Good to some degree?<BR/><BR/>Hmm, now use the same for the bad boy question and you get some funny stuff. Bad friends, bad sons, bad looking, bad in bed ;)<BR/><BR/>Funny how we are readers know what we mean by the 'bad boy' but then again I guess I would say that society see 'good girls' as quiet, shy, virginal.<BR/><BR/>Oh, are we safe to invoke LF's name without fangirls attacking? Good to know. I liked one of her books but she leans so heavily on stereotypes that my head starts to hurt.<BR/><BR/>I mentioned at Sybil's that I don't find the heroes in these books to be bad boys. Also, the stories are so short it's hard to see how they get from meeting each other to planning a wedding and kids. Ugh.<BR/><BR/>Did I stay on topic this time? Ohhh, and I'll take an anti-hero everytime as long as he has emotions. <BR/><BR/>CindySCindyShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18349459903336460467noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11597422.post-1138123607361605062006-01-24T12:26:00.000-05:002006-01-24T12:26:00.000-05:00hheeeeeeeevery cool! I have another blog I am pos...hheeeeeeee<BR/><BR/>very cool! I have another blog I am posting in a bit talking a lil bit more about the bad boy books and you saved me some work ;). I have a link to you without looking.<BR/><BR/>wwwwwwhhheeeeeeeeee<BR/><BR/>I looked and looked but there really doesn't seem to be guidelines out there for 'Bad Boy' books. It seems to be more of a brand. And I can't find any coming out titles past Aug but it looks like there is one almost every month from jan to aug.<BR/><BR/>I would love to get my hands on sales figures. It is sad, I don't write. I don't want to be a writer. But I love the marketing piece of it and what does sell or help sell vs what doesn't. yes I am weird.sybilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11342302708116383329noreply@blogger.com